Episode 9

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Published on:

6th Mar 2025

Nick Hillier | The Academy of Medical Sciences

What counts as a 'meaningful' engagement when involving patients and public with research? How can we elevate the voices of people with lived experience as experts? How can we support those people who agree to tell their own stories for impact?

In this episode Peter is joined by Nick Hillier, Director of Communications and Engagement at the Academy of Medical Sciences, which was established in 1998 to ensure that everybody can access good health, supported by the best research and evidence.

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Transcript
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Welcome to Research Unraveled.

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The podcast is dedicated

to the somewhat niche but hugely impactful

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world of research, communications

that specialism within a specialism.

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In particular,

we're exploring the idea of complexity

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which lies at the heart of this field.

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and hearing from communications experts

about how they navigate

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and overcome or unravel that complexity.

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Research

unraveled is brought to you by me, Peter

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Barker,

owner of RNA Co Communications, an agency

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where we specialize in working

with research based organizations.

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This month, I am joined by Nick Hillier,

the director of communications

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and engagement at the UK's

illustrious Academy of Medical Sciences.

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Our conversation is a proper

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deep dive into our topic.

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I know that deep dive is a phrase

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that's perhaps a little bit overused

now in a podcast context.

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So much so that, Google's own

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AI podcast creator on notebook,

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where you have two artificial hosts

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discussing whatever topic it is

that you feed into it.

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They always seem

to start their conversations by referring

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to a deep dive

that they're going to go into.

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So I've actually mixed it

from my own introduction.

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I'm rather embarrassed

to be using such cliched phrase,

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but this actually is a deep dive,

so it's justified.

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There's an in-depth chat

and it's a fascinating one.

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We're going to be talking about

how to broaden participation

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in research and in the way that

research is communicated.

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Nick will

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be talking about the work that he

and the Academy and others are doing

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to diversify the voices

that we hear talking about research

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so that we're not always

just hearing the same old voices.

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And the push for people

with lived experience

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to be given greater recognition

as experts in their own right.

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As I say, it's an in-depth chat.

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So I will wrap up this intro

as swiftly as possible.

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But I did want to mention one thing

before we jump into the conversation,

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and that is that we have just released

the latest Research Comms Snapshot survey.

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I will talk about it

a bit more at the end of the podcast,

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but the short story is

this is a survey for people who work

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as professional communicators at research

institutes, research universities.

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the idea is that from

its findings will develop

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a picture of the state of the research

comms sector at this moment in time.

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We did one last year.

It was incredibly illuminating.

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We created a report off the back of it,

and we want this to be an annual event

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so that we can track the changes,

the shifts, the patterns.

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The opportunities,

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challenges, hopes and fears

of those working in the sector over time.

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if you're interested

in sharing your experiences,

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we would be hugely grateful.

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The more people who respond,

the more valuable the insights.

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So please do consider taking a few minutes

to answer the questions.

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You can click on the link in the episode

description that will take you to a page

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explaining more about the survey

and a link to the survey itself.

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All right.

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Back though, to this month's

guest interview with Nick Hillier.

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Enjoy.

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There you have it.

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That was a thoroughly interesting

conversation from my point of view.

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I really enjoyed speaking with Nick.

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This is a subject that I think

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is top of mind

for so many people who work in the sector,

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but it's not always entirely clear

how one goes about

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broadening that participation,

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bringing in diverse voices,

something that we all know that matters.

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But how do you do it?

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That's the question.

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And so I really appreciate Nick

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sharing his insights

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that he's accumulated

over a number of years

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doing this kind of work

and sharing the strategy that the academy,

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the Academy of Medical Sciences,

is, is taking to further that mission.

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As I said at the start of this podcast,

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I also want to talk about the survey

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that we've just published. So.

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Please going to take a look at that.

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It should only take a few minutes

to fill out.

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this annual report, this snapshot survey

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could become a really valuable tool

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for the research comms community

to better understand

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the shared challenges and opportunities

that the sector faces,

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especially at this time right

now, where, you know, let's be honest,

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there are challenges

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that we as a community face

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and here in the UK where

I'm speaking from,

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talking about the financial crisis

that universities face

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So now more than ever,

I think we need to come together to,

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represent our interests

and understanding ourselves better

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and the community better

is a great way of helping us to do that.

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So yeah,

I think it will be a valuable tool.

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And at the moment

it is focused on the UK.

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I would also like to do

one for my network in the US,

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and perhaps that's something

we'll look into doing later this year.

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But for now, I think specific

we want to hear from people in the UK

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because it's kind of easier

to draw conclusions, from

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this particular research comms community.

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Going to take a look.

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As I say, it should take a few minutes.

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Would really appreciate your input,

your insights.

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People were incredibly generous

with their thoughts and their experiences

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last time around.

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So I hope we get the same kind of

contribution again.

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This time.

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Thank you so much.

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Next time you will hear from me,

I'll be back with Bianca for research.

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Unraveled. Extra. Until then. Bye.

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About the Podcast

Research Unravelled
A podcast exploring the complex world of research communications
Welcome to Research Unravelled - a podcast exploring the impactful world of research communications.

We'll be digging into the complexity that lies at the heart of this field and hearing from expert practitioners about how they navigate or unravel that complexity.

Research Unravelled is hosted by Peter Barker and brought to you by Orinoco Communications - the creative agency where we specialise in helping research organisations to tell their stories and give their research the reach it deserves.

In addition to his monthly conversations with experts Peter will also be joined by colleague and co-host, Bianca Winter, for bonus episodes where they will respond to listeners' comments and questions and discuss the latest news from the world of research comms.

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Peter is a multimedia producer with more than fifteen years experience creating documentaries, animations and other forms of digital content for TV and online. Before starting Orinoco Communications in 2016 Peter worked as a television producer and director, a job that took him all over the world, filming everywhere from NASA bases in the U.S.A. to volcanic islands in the Pacific ocean to ancient Mayan ruins in Central America. Now he has a more sedate life, living with his family by the sea on the east coast of England.